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12/14/12 | 15:07PM
Screwed by Verizon 4G

I have been a Verizon customer for 14+ years, including the earlier companies purchased by Verizon.
On 4 Sept 2012 I went into my local Verizon store and spoke with Kurt Crosbie, a customer rep that I have dealt with several times and had a belief that he would serve me well and I could rely on his advice. I explained that my business has been very slow over the past year and meeting bills was getting very difficult. I needed to shed expenses. The current plan, which was expiring, was for a Blackberry (which Kurt had recommended) with 2 incoming lines and data (email) access. It was running about $170. Per month. My stated goal was to lower it to under $100. We agreed to drop one of the incoming lines. I put the remaining line on an old flip phone and gave the Blackberry back to Kurt for a $15.00 credit. We agreed to lower the plan’s minutes. I had agreed (at Kurt’s recommendation) to 1400 minutes per month and had carried it for 2 years, during which I rarely ever got close to 500 minutes. When all was done, the monthly bill was down to the $70.00 range and I was happy.
Then I asked about the “hot spot” Internet 4G device. I told Kurt I was currently paying $70.00 per month for Time Warner cable Internet access. I told him that my primary Internet use was email, but sometimes looked at You Tube model railroading videos, Flixxy videos, the Glenn Beck television show and (infrequently) at RoKu. He explained that the 4G device would run $40.00 per month, so I agreed to it as well. I believed that my net savings would be about $110.00 per month.
The first bill to arrive, dated 28 Sept, was for $256.88 and included that I had used 14 gigs on the 4G device resulting in a $90.00 overage charge. As well, the 1400 minutes of telephone usage still remained (and I had used 186 minutes). Due to postal delays, this bill did not reach me until about the 10th of October. I immediately called the store and spoke to Kurt, asking for an explanation. He accessed the account as he was speaking to me and told me he would suspend the account immediately because I was currently at 45 gigs of usage under the current bill (resulting in a $400.00 overage charge. He offered to credit me with $90.00 for the September bill overage charge, but he said he could/would do nothing about the $400.00 because they were “justified charges.” I told him that I had no idea that there was a possibility that there could be an overage charge and that fact alone would have been a deal breaker for me – that I never would have agreed to the contract if I had known it. Nothing I said made a difference. Kurt did agree to waive the $175.00 fee to end the contract. He did say that he would work with his supervisor on the balance and someone would call me.
On 24 Oct, having heard nothing, I called the 800- number and spoke to Arturo. I explained all of the above. He told me that he would have someone call me.
At 11am, 9 Nov, having heard nothing, I called and talked to Kelly and had to explain everything again. She promised to have someone call me shortly. At 3:15pm, having heard nothing, I called again and spoke to Tasha. I went thru the entire history again. I got shuffled to Frances – who demanded the last 4 digits of my Social Security number. At this point I was upset and drew a line in the sand – every time I call I have to give these numbers. No more. After several minutes of stonewall, I hung up.
I called again and got Tasha again. She demanded the SS number and finally settled for setting up a different code. Tasha told me that I was currently on a 450 minute per month plan – the first notification I had of the change. After working thru the entire explanation again, I was shuffled to “tech support” who informed me that I had been warned of the 4G overages as soon as they occurred. This was the first time I had heard such a story and I objected – I had never been informed of overage charges until the bill arrived. I told her that I would have stopped the usage immediately if I had been informed that I had overage charges. I was told flat out that I was wrong. She told me that I had been sent alerts on 10/23 and 10/19. When I objected and told her that I had never been contacted, she went on to say that their records showed that I had been sent warnings on 9/11, 9/15 and 9/16 – and she would not speak slower or repeat these dates even though I asked several times. I objected and she rattled off new dates – 10/1, 10/2. 10/3. I kept asking for her to slow down so I could copy down all of the dates she was rattling off, to no avail. It was very obvious that I would be given no comprehensive explanation of all of the warnings that supposedly had been issued to me. I asked just how I went sent these warnings and she informed me that they were sent “to the device” – and I asked how they appeared on the 4G device. Was there a warning light? Was there a flashing beacon? How was I to know to look at the device to see if there was a warning? She could not explain. I asked again how I got the warnings and she told me that the warnings were sent “on the phone” and I explained that no such phone calls had ever come to me.
After getting nowhere and having more questions, I demanded a supervisor and was connected to Randall. Once again I related the entire saga… and was told there was no way that I was getting a full $400.00 credit. When we got to the part about the overage alerts, Randall told me that I was informed of the overages by email. I told him that I had never gotten any emails. I asked for proof of the emails. I was informed that we could negotiate now for the overage charges and forget about proof of overage alerts or the $400.00 charge would stand and there would be no more negotiations. He stated that the overage charges were “valid charges” under the contract – I countered that I did not believe that a valid contract existed. Randall stated that I had signed a contract. I told him that all of the details of the contract had not been explained to me. As a graduate of law school with a Juris Doctorate degree, I know there is a contract term known as “meeting of the minds” without which a viable contract cannot exist. The “meeting of the minds” ensures that each side knows the terms of the contract and understands the terms. Clearly I did not know about the overage possibilities and could have never signed the contract had I been informed of the possibility.
Randall said I had been informed of the overage charged the minute they occurred. I told him that was not the case and no one had been able to tell me how I had been informed of the overage charges – that I had never been notified. After several minutes of back and forth, Randall told me that the 4G device had to log in to get the overage alerts and I had to log into my Verizon on line account to be warned. I asked “what account?” – That I had never set up an on line account.
Randall offered a $140.00 refund. I objected. He offered a $165.00 refund. I asked for a supervisor and he said that I had gone as far as I could, that no more credits would be issued. Then he informed me that an on line account had been set up by me on 7 Nov 2006. It was news to me.
Later that day I went back to the Verizon store in Huntersville and spoke to Lisa, the store manager. I explained all of this in detail. She told me that the overage alerts would be sent to me via email by the myVerizon account. I told her that I did not have a myVerizon account. She told me that she could not issue a credit and that I should take the offers. She refused to give me names or numbers of anyone that I could talk to for help in this matter.
So the bottom line here is that I was duped into a contract and sucker punched with a huge overage charge (about $500.00 in about a month – which in and of itself is proof that I did not understand what I was getting into) and Verizon will stonewall and do nothing about it. Nor can I get to talk to anyone with authority to resolve the situation. When I did not pay the bill, my service was interrupted. The only bright light is that at the end of the current contract I shall be out of Verizon, never to return.

Anonymous - Verizon H8er ID: 7FD651



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12/18/12 | 17:33PM
Report them to the FCC. They are bullying their customers into upping their WIFI plans by over charging them bites used a month. Our internet usage has not changed in the least and we used to use maybe 10 a month. We suddenly started 'using' almost 15! NOTHING CHANGED! We are now on a higher plan and back down to below 10 like normal. AFTER a HUGE overage charge...

Anonymous - Verizon H8er ID: 236084

07/07/13 | 14:30PM
Dave,

I must request that you remove my name from your rant on the web. It is not fair for you to badmouth me on the internet, especially when you were in the wrong. I asked you what you were going to be doing with the service, explained how much data you would be using, and explained how the overages work. I also explained that you would be getting warnings on your phone and email account when you reached 50%, 75%, 90%, and 100% data use. If you failed to adhere to the warnings and either change your plan or stop using the service, that is your fault. There is no reason to go attempt to make someone look bad via the internet. Although you were completely in the wrong, I still had empathy for you, and covered half of your bill. If that's not good customer, then I don't know what is. That's like doing 200mph in a 55mph zone and the judge reducing your ticket from $2000 to $1000. I could have just left things the way they were, but I had a backbone and risked losing my job to get your bill down, yet you chose to go behind my back and personally attack me. I just don't get it.

Give me a call if you would like to discuss this, or at the very least remove my name from your rantpage.

Kurt 704-584-9184

Anonymous - Verizon H8er ID: 5B5D79


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